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This is another presentation of tape recorded UFO information service.

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The lecture is a portion of the Long John program, heard on November 25, 1956 on WOR in New York.

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Ivan T. Sanderson is a distinguished naturalist, author and explorer and he turns to a question asked by hundreds of thousands, what are the UFOs?

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Sanderson brings a trained scientific mind to the study of this important question as he gives his biological theory of the UFOs.

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And now here is Mr. Sanderson.

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Alright, let's get off the recording and let's start with something. I'm the man I want to see.

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I'm going to speak very frankly and I may get a little rough sometimes.

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I hope that always I will remain within the bounds of not-financially-commodies with urban tax.

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Let us dispose of very rough and slurped of all and I must explain.

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Well, I must explain. I'm 6th chair of my good health and business. The woods is full of them.

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Everybody is business and mathematicians today have in my head that he is not a physicist.

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That was not wrong introduction on my part.

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This is not against your guess, but I'm speaking now. I'm also the major case.

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I'm also Dr. Davidson and also the vet which is married and is getting into this whole business.

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You are un-Ivan.

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I'm on the subject of UFOs and a lot more besides.

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And let me start at the beginning. We are a technological culture in this country and a wedding world.

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And the whole world is becoming that way.

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Now, our technology is a progressive element.

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It started on what is called physics. Not only a physical scientist, but physics.

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And the physicists are most monodomocal scientists today.

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At least I suppose mathematicians on top do the kind of theory.

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And then physicists and then down to chemists.

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That's more like a biologist before taking a long...

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Now, I would just like to find out that I don't know if you've noticed.

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The only tip in this country don't realize when I've fallen a black tooth.

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Realize that I was born and brought up on the other side.

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I discovered in my done-spotted amazement only a few years ago that what we call populace in this country sounds.

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Not sounds, but sounds of technology, gadgety, artisanship, for the most part.

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What we call philosophy in this country is what's called pure science.

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The rest of the world.

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And what the rest of the world calls philosophy.

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We call mathematics in this country.

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Alright? Now let's get out of here straight.

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Now, about 99% of physicists, and I'm not saying anything in terms of it, are gadgeteers.

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They're not scientists at all.

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Mainly by the matter of semantics.

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It only takes one family to devise, think out the principles of an atom bomb.

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It takes 100,000 people to put one together.

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And we live in an age when it's the people who put bombs together that matter.

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We all must worship them.

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And I think it's to the enormous credit of the physicists who underpaid as they are, overworked as they are,

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have not yet found it an orthodoxy, and or a hierarchy, nor are they bullying people around.

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They're trying to do a hard job.

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So the last scientist, a last chemist, about 25% are probably real scientists.

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Do you know what the definition of scientist is?

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We look it up in the evening web search.

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It is the exploration or investigation of the unknown, not of the known.

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Technology, from Keknoff, you have got out a great fiction,

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and you will find out that it actually comes down to the further elaboration of or understanding of our log of knowledge of the known, or Keknoff.

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Keknoi, I think he doesn't have it anyhow.

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Now many are really working in the field of pure science.

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In other words, it's more of a, it starts with imagination, just like science fiction does.

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Following which comes the hypothesis, other which may develop a theory,

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after which you can't have a theory and it works out, you finally have practice and a theory.

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The chemists are examining real things.

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Do you realize that the only thing that doesn't exist, the only thing that we know for sure is absolutely true,

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that mathematics, we can't tell you a word tonight,

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the official thing is mathematics, in nature, outside of modern intelligence.

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In the human time, mine doesn't exist. If you add five apples, three apples for two apples, you don't get five apples.

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There's a lot of apples lying on the ground.

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Mathematics is a very peculiar business, but it is, the only thing that's actually true,

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and can actually, in every case, be proved right or wrong, despite that horrible little figure,

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which means possibility, which is now trapped in, and infinity.

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But it's a path, science, and it's the only thing that doesn't really exist.

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Physics is the next one down.

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You know a certain physicist, who's not mentioned his name,

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who's one of the people who helped us put the alum bomb together, pointed out to me, not very long ago,

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that when they let off the first experimental alum bomb at Elamador, though,

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we knew of the existence of fourteen less particles in the nucleus than we know now.

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So really, we're sitting around with some, we sit in every much of that.

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So you have a lot of theoreticians, or a few theoreticians, people who put the stuff together,

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then a master technologist, then you come down to the chemist, finally you come down to the biologist,

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and the biologist, who's called a little forgot-so, so they're becoming of vital importance.

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After all, biology is dealing with facts which are studying from ourselves on up and on down,

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and the majority of them still have to be scientists.

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There's a lot of biological technology going on, but on the whole,

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the biologist has to be a little bit more scientific, shall we say, about it.

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I'm not being snide, I'm simply trying to put some things, it's a matter of semantics and nothing else,

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but a lot of people who understand it, they think that many radio stations putting alum bombs together,

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it's not, it's not, it's gadgetary, it's a very advanced order.

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If they want the bigger bang in the Russian, you get a hundred thousand people together,

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you dig two things out of the ground, you put them together in a certain kind of way,

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and you get your big bang, but the families of this world and the people who think of the theory

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and develop the theory are exploring the unknown.

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Now there's been some little scientific respect shown to this whole subject of what I call eupolysis,

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and I think it's about time that one of the sciences could find time or space or place

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to allow this strange subject to be taken in.

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The meteorologists, the meteorologists don't want it, it's much too busy.

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They're concerned with things in our sky, certainly, which they have to know about.

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Astronomers, they weren't a part of it, anyhow they can't see how these things have reported

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because they're either too far away or too close up, and as they don't get into their keeping things,

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the physicists, they're one of a sort, and they're part of the physics,

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the chemists are only interested in the chemistry of this guy in his home, and so on down the line.

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The biologists, at least of all the people, have lived the eupolysis knowledge enough to live.

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And really, even psychologists, the characters, they say, were bad liquor, mass hallucination,

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deflated navy blimps, I don't know why, but earlier by the time all of us were on the slides,

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there was a sea monster thing, that's one of the great explanations of sea monsters.

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They say that navy blimps, the poor navy must be getting rid of blimps,

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it's been about 400 years, about the last 100 years, but all these kinds of things, they're really very sensitive.

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Here, there have been what their old child's court used to call, object-based, O-N-M,

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object-based floating, I think it's a much nicer connotation to UFOs,

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or I can say that they're flying objects, object-based floating,

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but I think, if you analyze this guy, I would point out that nowadays there was a dash in the background of this guy,

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whereas in the early days, it had been just floating there, other gentlemen,

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but these types of things have been seen throughout history, and don't think that it's all Fortin newspaper reports.

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Fortin started picking up reports from his book, he took an after-date of 1800s.

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A couple of other gentlemen you mentioned before, gentlemen so on, have dug out reports in Wilkinson,

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they know that my most group is a working-class and co-student,

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anyhow, everybody who's been to the single novel and told me about it,

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has gone a way back to early Chinese literature, the credit-bunch of the Bible, you know,

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rather than the flying wheel in the sky, but the isa'ving taken up in the Far East Chariot.

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People wanted to know today, they weren't fighting for what the company was going to tell them,

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that you're lying, you're hoaxing, all the time.

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What they said, what they saw, they thought they saw, they said,

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and they got into credit through the different available, they changed the gypsies,

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have certain very peculiar things to say, but much more important than that.

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And I would ask you, and any of you listeners, just go to the New York Public Library,

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get ahold of the proceedings of the world study in London, starting with his inception in the late 17th century,

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and going on up to about 1865, just ruffle through the pages of those proceedings,

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you will find Dory Arthur Dory reported two pieces of world study in London,

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five members of the Royal Society, of all kinds of very things being seen in the sky.

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And I think the poor, but the only shape that never seems to have once been reported yet is out of the form.

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Lenses, things that look like bottom of land, lobs in shape jobs,

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some spices where things still in there, things that look like types, cigar shaped objects,

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lights of all kinds, objects with lights on them and so on.

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I really don't think that anybody, except for Hossie possibly, is a gentleman of the press,

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and I can't think where they're going to sit any longer, really,

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at the fact of there being a lot of things buzzing about in the sky, or having things being in the sky.

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I mean, to tell you I've stayed at all months, except the third, and the 30th of October,

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I stood with 10,000 people out on that road watching this alleged balloon.

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My eyesight's fine, of course, I didn't have any fuel glasses, it looked awful funny to me.

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It was a balloon, it was one chicken, a big one, it certainly wasn't that little small-foot job,

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which was let off in Long Island, but because it was in the sky nearly 100 miles away,

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half an hour before that one was let off, the purpose of sky was,

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it was let off out in Minnesota, where were they doing this now,

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there was private corporations doing it out there.

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They won't tell us if one was let off, and they won't tell us if the wind was in the wrong direction.

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So, this is a balloon, a lot of people looked at it to the field glasses

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and had something hanging down underneath, alright.

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But the whole thing, despite the fact that they finally wiped it away,

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as I was talking about, saying it was a balloon, we know it was a balloon.

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Alright, but in the meantime, all these nigh remarks about it there,

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it must have been a balloon, it can't be anything else,

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everybody doesn't know what they see, and there's tens of thousands of people looking at it.

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They get all these reports, there's scientific journals, and the world's the start of London,

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three spirits in mind, there's organization, and all this has, I think, been credited with being there.

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And hearing at them in their official journals, you can find them in several meteorological journals,

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with some free sports. It's not all these things, you know.

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It gives you little references, and not the funny way, but the references are there.

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And I spent days, maybe cut out four copies of Charles Ford and Cardin Decker,

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and cut in dark every single statement of the nature of those things

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that we're trying to figure into this, on the Cardin Decker.

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And I did a lot of sitting in the library after I'd been able to talk.

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We were asking for these different journals, some newspapers,

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and seeing if the things were really in there, they're there, alright.

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Well, actually, it's funny enough where the actual pages have been drawn out of the journals,

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right in the public library. We had a central, second set, and a third set,

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before we could find the proper pagination in there, it was a story.

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But it all seems to have come to an end in the Royal Pagination, it was about 1870.

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We had a wonderful person called David Brewster,

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who I think had a completely open mind to the better sense of that word,

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and that he allowed these things to be published.

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But about that time, you see, far or rather, technology was getting going,

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becoming patronized, and you couldn't have things outside the textbook.

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It upset the system. I mean, after a serious, geological serious disorder had been laid down,

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you couldn't suddenly ask another two million years' jam between the illigacy and the ear syndrome.

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So it was an acceptable picture.

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And until somebody could actually come out and show you a huge block of rock that went in there,

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the thing is ignored.

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In other words, they said, look, let's concentrate on what has to be done to get on with the technology.

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We can have scientific thinking forever.

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So we've got our medicine, all the sciences, and that seems to work.

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And then, after the rest, it's a purely historical gesture, as it were.

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Now, with great cause, and you could say, well, I don't know.

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I'm sort of pontificating too much.

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There isn't any reason for it. Sound has a methodology.

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In addition to being the investigation of the unknown,

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I started to never get a thing like the occult received into the body of pure sound,

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because I'm not interested in the occult and the nature of everything.

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And then I might throw in one thing my shortest, the largest, the short way.

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But a lot of things are improbable.

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I don't think anything is implausible.

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Now, the occult I don't think will be included in sound,

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but certainly it is not open to measurement,

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which means in a quite extent that if a man says,

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I have been dealt with then with a vaccine to polio,

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not only has that vaccine got to prevent polio,

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but somebody else using his publishing to counter how he prepared that vaccine

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has got to be able to do it in another time and place and come up with the same result.

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If somebody says, I saw a flying disk over a horrid ship,

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flying 10 on the 11th,

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because I'm much encouraged to say that if he's not assigned to be taken in so far,

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that you can't reproduce the disk at any other place at the same time,

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that's a very crude way of putting it.

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I'm fetching a rubber band as far as I can to try and make my point.

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Sound is precise.

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You've got to be able to weigh and measure the object.

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At least you've got to be able to reproduce it on the mark.

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Dr. J.B. Rine ran into that great difficulty when he was working on ESP.

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He'd say, come on and go on without any kind of regularity.

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You couldn't deathly just say to him,

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look, I've got the following results.

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I've got papers to take with this gentleman sitting in front of me

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and with a girl in a room, another one to call us the way.

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And then get up and walk out in another investigative paper.

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It's only consistently self.

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You've got to come on and go on.

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It's going to be very difficult in those borderline investigations.

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However, if you're polishing, I believe it's a very much practical thing to do there.

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I believe it would eventually be subject to a proper analysis

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and proper measurement in time if people could take this thing seriously.

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I don't know whether any of the animal citizens, particularly the Swedes and the Peruvians,

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I continue to spread it because those were the true great areas in the world

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where you think that it becomes so very, very numerous.

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I know that the British have grabbed a lot of strange substances

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and have spawned out of the sky because of the actual police reports of it.

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And I think they are also pretty interested.

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But to say once again, we give credit to our Air Force for having come out and done something about it.

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I don't think that there's enough to be consensus for covering up.

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If anything is the other way, they're going to want a book of charge

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and trying to find out something and putting out these useful reports.

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So we'll cover those details, I'll try and fix up an ad.

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But we have overlooked one major fact in trying to be what I'd like to call scientific about it.

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These objectives include a logical study.

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And I'm just dashing about with preconceived ideas

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and all of them that I've heard on your program recently have been

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ideas stemming from physics with a little bit of chemistry thrown in,

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a great deal of the Krozenberger stuff,

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and a lot of publishing business and all the rest of it.

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Not one single person has thought or really used their minds and said,

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now, is the overall, what could these things be?

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Are you thinking of going to jump right over to the subject of money?

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Say something, you're not a funny.

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You take me outside with a carverette here.

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We're not too far away from the turnpike.

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There's certainly already soil between here and there, despite all the oil.

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You keep me up.

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Any cubic yard of soil, I take soil or anything else for that matter, any way you like.

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You give it to me to take a circle of a lad and give me a little bit of money,

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and I'll take it from technicians to examine that cubic yard of soil.

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I take the yard in my cubic yard, yard by yard by yard.

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I can, I think I write today, and podologists and various other biologists

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would probably make correct with me, but I would say there are 10,000 different kinds

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of life forms in that one block of soil.

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The time you take the bacteria and the little worm,

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the little insects and the eggs and the funguses and all the rest of it,

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we'll have time exaggerating, I don't know, I may be taking too much of that.

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But there are thousands of different kinds of life forms living right in that one little bit of soil.

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The different life forms of the surface of this are absolutely incredible.

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There are about a million species of living animals which have Latin names already.

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The entomologists, the insects people, the insects alone mind you,

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I'm not talking of presentations or the spider groups, the arachnids or the centipedes

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which are also jointed to lay down.

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The insects alone are half that number, at 500,000,

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and the entomologists assure us that we've only got about one ninth of those yet to be discovered on the surface of this earth.

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That insect alone.

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There are 25,000 species of, no species of beetles, but the British isles alone.

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I may astonish you to know that there are 822 species and suspicious and mammal decisionists

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from North America and United States which are above a rat,

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rats in the wild since rat is my son.

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Now, the different business of UFOs, they have, I think, the prime source of the disease of that.

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They are probably of such a numerable different kind and different origin

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that it will take an enormous amount of time to do anything about it.

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It's a very specific capital of the disease, this thing.

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And I absolutely refuse to give any opinion.

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Have you a point coming up?

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To say that there are some.

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I certainly will definitely say that not only one thing, but not all two things.

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There are probably hundreds.

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Now, I'm going to put a lot of fat on you, John.

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We were talking about some interesting things of different nations coming out here tonight.

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I've got a final step of UFOs, photographs.

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I'm sure that you've ever seen right here.

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With them, I hope to make a point that I have been working up to.

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You may have guessed what it is.

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If you haven't, don't give it away to your listeners.

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I'm going to show you these photographs in a search order.

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They are set up on cards.

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And we have to do this.

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We have to do the video as well as the audio right here.

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They're set up on cards with a piece of little window cut in a cover.

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And I want to show you them to you one at a time.

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And if you have any violent comments, make them.

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But I'll turn you off if I think you're doing the wrong way.

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As you're demonstrating a point, now, I trust that there will still be a person who's possible to do the job.

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If you want to make any comments, that is a personal order.

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I would say almost the adaptive style is due to around things underneath.

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Let me just make a few inquiries about what you would call reliable for clients with fine updates.

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No, I can say that they're reliable.

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Already published photographs, which I imagine the Air Force must have seen.

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They may have done.

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They may not have the money to get out for it.

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Here is one of their jobs which has these books all around the side.

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I think they know what it is.

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They're some things.

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All right. What do you think that is?

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Is there some particular...

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Well, if that's like something up or down, if that's the bottom line, that's nice.

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Now, here is the photograph of the same object taken with the infrared, and I think there's another light.

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There are ones with light in front of them.

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Oh, I'm so tempted to hear that.

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There's another one.

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Now, that's the type which was first seen down in Florida.

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The only comment I can make at the moment is I've never seen any pictures like these, any photographs, as far as flying saucers, you can say.

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Doesn't that look like a depth?

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Yeah, that type.

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The one that stands in front of them, the spotlight was along the side.

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Yes, and you might even call... you might even say this is a ping-pong ball, baby.

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And a small one.

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Yes, a small one.

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There's a gag in this, not a trick, isn't it?

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Do you remember the case in the South Bronx where these little things in pairs came out of that cylinder that Michel mentioned in his book?

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Do you remember that?

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How did you know that nature?

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I think it was in the way that that thing called the danger sail was.

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That's it, and then the angel care fell out of it.

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Of course, there's... I have seen some of the ones photographs taken out of the way that they can be.

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Part of it is the government's bills, the color one was taken by a friend of mine, Teg Ziegler, the round blue thing.

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Of course, this will give this away.

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Now you can say the last one.

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Well?

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I'm guessing that. I guess these are photographs of plants or animal life.

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Either the unknown ones...

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Open up my screen. Open up the clock.

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The picture, and I don't want these two. I don't want to open. I want to see if I have been able to guess as much as I have.

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The landing names will come again down the border.

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The third one that I showed is the photograph of the shape of the object, the luminous against the black background, right?

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With a few little brown things underneath.

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The second one, I think, is this one, which is a series of little, look-like little lights.

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Well, they're hazy in a circle, like a spotlight, with little, little things coming out.

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Now, Teg, I forgot most of these match to various types.

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Well, have I assessed this by thinking these two?

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No, those were the end. You keep them there.

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I mean, I'm just a bit of a driving that they are likely to all luminous looking objects on a dark ground.

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I have now asked John and Sivir to open them up, and these are photographs of luminous animals.

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Some of them are very small size. This one right around the ground right now.

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Nearly holding water in water.

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But they're all nice. Now, this ring of little dots is actually a kind of grout.

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The female of the people found in South America, which incidentally has red and green light,

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and so it's a fucking girl's light.

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Well, it should curve out and take an influence on the object, which is the ring of light.

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Now, this shape of object here, which looks like rather like Madame's, you'd further off,

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like a rather light, turns out to be a very small partition of a kind, which is found in the sea,

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or the person's just hand. It happens to luminous, at night, which is chemiluminous.

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Now, I'm not bringing these things out just to try and demonstrate.

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No, I'm not bringing them out to try and say that the photographs shown to you,

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were fake, or that they've taken them by photographing these small luminous animals,

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which are in every sea in our woods under a microscope, and then giving the first drop of luminous animals

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the same as the flying saucer.

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Have these been published in any of the flying saucers books?

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No, because no flying saucer book yet has ever come to what I'm building up to.

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They have never come to the biological aspect of the saucer.

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Now, these two here, I just wanted, if I were to get in this correctly,

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are these the photographs of egg-beater?

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No.

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You may, at any time this year, look into me like a phase of an egg-beater,

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possibly set up on a piece of black velvet or a photograph of black paper,

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and just some light-dark arms.

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I'm going to explain to you, John, to your listeners, that I have presented these photographs

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stuck on cards with a piece of brown paper over that card, tipped on,

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with a window-cutting it to show just one photograph out of a series or a part of a photograph.

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By taking your picture, lifting up the brown paper, you can see what they really are.

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Their page is taken out of Dr. Harvins' book on animal life,

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and they are all animals, all vegetables, which luminesce, as I could chemiluminesce.

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The two of them, looking at, are very small animals which are found in the sea of the jellyfish nature.

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They have in every way the appearance of many of the descriptions of different types of UFOs.

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Now, I'm not saying the photographs of UFOs that have been presented by such gentlemen as Dr. Danity

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are photographs of this nature.

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We have gotten from that two measures by which photographs could be taken.

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I'd have used at this point to say whether I think the photographs have been printed

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or otherwise are taken or not. That's another whole subject, which I'd like to get on with, if I may.

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I think I hope I've got you and I hope I've got some of your listeners to a point of concern,

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and I hope that it is also logical.

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I've pointed out that life on the surface of our planet, being incredibly on the surface of our planet

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and in the waters of our planet, is incredibly complex.

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And the numbers of forms that just as we could go on and on, there are millions of life forms.

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Believe me, I've heard all these photographs this is for a moment, but I have shown you things here,

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which I'm sure you've never seen before, as though I had it on the shape of them.

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They are called radiolaria, infusoria, globiterina.

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There's a huge group of single-celled animals which are found in every drop of water that is in the world.

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Diaphanos, currently any biologic crust and just a drop of dead water and you'll see,

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cylinder, lentils, even porpoises, triangular things.

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Yes, little porcelain crust, little plate, right?

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Just take some of your own blood and have a look at the plate and it's finished.

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There is a blind spot, there's really a field.

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The red, the red, you've seen a field, the red, red, red, red blood cells.

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Even in the big medium, it is suitable for an animal to adopt the most specific of all forms,

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the globular form, I presume.

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The fetus is a locomotion, also sitting on the bottom or going up and down,

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they become compressed out of the bottom of the side to side.

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Then comes the crest of tensile stress of the structure.

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The gelatinous ones just go into the air like an amoeba.

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If they want to retain some kind of form, they will probably become hexagonal, triangular,

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dodecahedron, tetrahedron, various geometric shapes.

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These four animals have drift about, the plant from a system known,

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which we may all have to feed on one day, which whales feed on, which most fishes feed on.

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It's made up of millions of these little diatoms and things and they're the most wonderful little shapes

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because they're so suspended in the water.

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They take so long to sink, they never get anywhere, does it, I mean.

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Their whole life cycle is passed through in the sinking of a few feet, perhaps.

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Sometimes the year when the sea goes green, when lakes suddenly go sort of reddish,

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that is when you have what's called a flush of maybe bacteria or inclusoria

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or one of these small cerdidzeras, a type of animal, or bacteria in some cases,

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some of the blue bit of bacteria.

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You will open your refrigerator and found the dishes that you've got in there

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for the next day, glowing happily in the dark.

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I have, it's my two-long experience.

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That is the type of bacteria which is lodged in the fishes' scales.

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Those individual little bacteria, those small, which cannot be put to the naked eye,

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you have to get a quite powerful microscope of the individual little ones.

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They put out continuous cold light throughout their tiny little lives,

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which in proportion to their size is about 400 times that of the power

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that gives them the New York sedatives.

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Nature is a very, very wonderful thing.

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Now, I'm coming finally to my point.

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Why brought these things up?

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But to point out that the biologist has not yet had a say in his UFO business.

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Now, I would give credit to a Swedish gentleman who I've never met.

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I don't know who he is or where he is.

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His name is ZOE, which I understand is the Polish way of saying Joe.

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Wetnookle W-A-L-K-O, Heism Zarecki, S-E-R-E-C-K-I.

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I've talked about this myself a couple of times on the air.

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I was very tangentially.

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This gentleman has developed a theory, and I give full credit to him for bringing it to my attention.

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I've been working on a theory here, and when I've been working on it,

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I've been thinking of aspects of it and putting them down in his hopes and logics and sequences.

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You know that animals feed on matter, materials.

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Plants, on the other hand, feed half on matter and half on energy.

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They take the substances in liquid form out of the soil through their roots,

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and they take, they combine sunlight, the youth and flower fields,

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00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,000
and the energy of the sunlight, combining the chemicals to build up their food substances,

433
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
in which they build their bodies.

434
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,000
So we have life forms that are best to deserve, which are living on matter entirely,

435
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
or half matter and half energy.

436
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:56,000
Now, there is nothing as defaultful in nature, and it's exactly that kind of probable

437
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,000
that there could be life forms, and I'm not talking about animals, or viruses, or plants,

438
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,000
but another type of force type, but another type of force type of life form,

439
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
which feeds exclusively on energy.

440
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Where is energy of certain kinds to be obtained in curious forms,

441
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,000
on the whole matter of energy basically, but it's kind of locked up in, isn't it?

442
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000
We're finding that out now with our fusion and our addition, Bob.

443
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,000
They can all have a lot of power to get the locked up energy out of matter,

444
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000
or get it, or put it back in together and stick it in to make the matter stick together.

445
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
It's an fusion.

446
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Where is a lot of free energy of certain kinds available?

447
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,000
At the outer limit of our atmosphere, where such energy is pouring upon us from the start,

448
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000
there's many other sources that we find now from radio astronomy.

449
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,000
This, you've heard of gentlemen, the initial suggestion was that the maybe life forms

450
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:55,000
living up there are of a high tenuous nature, which has, are enclosed in a bladder type thing,

451
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,000
which for some reason, and I think he has good reasons to say this,

452
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
and I just never much to try and go into the technical character too much,

453
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000
but I think that in certain days and certain months,

454
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000
there's a certain closure of the silicon as it's a considerable element.

455
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,000
The inside maybe, it's got to be a gauges mixture or part of gelatinous, but mostly it's a thing.

456
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,000
That they will adopt certain forms, particularly the globular, the lenticular,

457
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,000
I use the form of the, the oblate and spheroid, I think it's called,

458
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,000
the cylindrical, perhaps when they're breathing, they will adopt like I have seen myself

459
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:40,000
in the micro-scurvy, and there are a third of the ordinary sticking of the cell in my test,

460
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
have another in some time, the chromosomes, how they bunch themselves together

461
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000
and they put out some strings between the male and the female woman, which should say,

462
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000
or the ex-wife, and they put out some strings and all the chromosomes bunch together

463
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000
and then they join and then they split in the middle the other way, you know,

464
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000
so we get sort of the, the generations to pass down to be spelt.

465
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,000
There are the small sea animals, which come together at a certain time,

466
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
I'm going to say, sea animals, these are my new teeth that I'm showing you here,

467
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
they move it doesn't, two amoeba will sort of flow together and in this,

468
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,000
they're making two sort of a bigger one and then they'll lie, rest in the head,

469
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
and then the skin first and I'll come up with a little one.

470
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000
There are other kinds where they'll come together and then they'll put a plate of light

471
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
and they seem to throw out under the microscope little sprites between them,

472
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000
they make like a little cylinder, the next thing is one in a wire, the other,

473
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,000
and they rest in that stage of time and then out of them come little pairs of little things

474
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,000
which don't look like either the cylinder or the two parental objects.

475
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,000
A thank you description of that I have never heard and give by Mr. Michel,

476
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,000
in the case he's reported to all of the stars and flowers of France.

477
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
There's sort of the cylinder appearing in the sky for some hours

478
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
and little pairs of things coming out of it, dancing around its pairs,

479
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
but whenever two of them touched, there was a blinding flash

480
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,000
and a lot of this industrial angel hair came encumpling down, we'll get to that in a minute.

481
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,000
His theory and very much my theory is that not all you first,

482
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,000
but that there may be a very large part of life forms living on the other edge of our atmosphere

483
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000
which are largely life forms, in other words there have been kind of natural connoverments

484
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
that could be such a thing.

485
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Now everybody says, what's the last word very well, but wait a minute, why don't we believe them?

486
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Well, I am not good at optics, but you know perfectly well

487
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:35,000
most of our telecoms are trained, these are trained, of things outside our atmosphere.

488
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Most of our meteorologists are trained in their lives and things inside our atmosphere.

489
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:48,000
We are working like mad now, so is the effort, everybody is to find out what goes on at the edge of our atmosphere.

490
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,000
But every minute I run and tell me that things have to be disease-loading about this guy, they have.

491
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,000
And they are just the type of form which, due to the natural environment,

492
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,000
a natural object is, which is not an inanimate object,

493
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,000
and it's neither an animal nor a plant nor a bird, but it's an, in other words, a life form,

494
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,000
that might take up, then people say, well wait, come come, some of these things are going to be normal,

495
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
the fires are going to be reported.

496
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,000
I'll take that up in one second, then they say, how do they travel this fast?

497
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Well, I never to figure that I should have made the note before I came, I'm sorry John,

498
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,000
but I will give them to you, and if you want to read on the air, I can either read them or I can send you a note and you can read them yourself.

499
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:38,000
If you take the density of water as a medium, and the pressure of water at the bottom of the ocean, and the top of the ocean,

500
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,000
and you compare it with the density of air at ocean level, and then on up through to our other atmosphere,

501
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,000
and you exit from the lake, and you see what the biggest we have in water into the air.

502
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
I don't find making myself clear.

503
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,000
An animal, of course, is such a star, is traveling in the medium of water,

504
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
can develop a certain amount of energy only with its muscles,

505
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
so there's the addition of all the rubbish that blew away on,

506
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000
which is just one great huge hung up muscle, actually,

507
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000
and it can go to tremendous speeds, you can go to 113 feet, put long jumping clean out of the water,

508
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000
you can go to certain speeds.

509
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,000
In the atmosphere, in the lower atmosphere, things can travel much faster, both through the sea.

510
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,000
As the atmosphere rarefies and goes up, the things can travel much faster still,

511
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
and by pure escalation,

512
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
according to Mr. Wetzelowski and he said himself,

513
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,000
it's good we've got to get some of this to go into the actual details, we should say good, but I'll bounce it.

514
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,000
You can mobilize the speed of something in water by 7 hundred I think,

515
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,000
and you will get the speed at which an object is the same size,

516
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
or comparable size, can travel in the atmosphere.

517
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Also, measure size.

518
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,000
The harder you push down from around, the better it is in its form.

519
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,000
The looser the medium around you is, the bigger you can be without setting things.

520
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
The normal size is reported to some users,

521
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,000
and I'm told, without the fact of a life form living in a rarefied atmosphere,

522
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,000
they're seeing it exclusively on the radio energy.

523
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000
May I ask you, is there a question with a question following your thoughts now?

524
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Is it conceivable that as this life, if this life exists,

525
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:25,000
this life form exists, as it gets closer and closer to the life source,

526
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
which on earth are plant life uses,

527
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000
it can completely move at the speed of light?

528
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
That's a lovely thought. I haven't gone that far.

529
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,000
That's not one of anybody's thought-ups before.

530
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000
That I would have to ask some citizens of my country,

531
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,000
like Dr. Keaton Barthel, who does have a slight interest in the biological aspect of these things,

532
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,000
I may make a note of that and forget it for a moment, so I can remember it for myself.

533
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,000
But I would, in the meantime, like to find myself as a bound of possibility,

534
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,000
as well as the possibility of the Earth, of possibility of the surface of our planet,

535
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,000
and its aesthetic envelope, as we know it is the first day.

536
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000
We're finding out a lot of these things about it we should be doing now before.

537
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000
The old idea was that when you went out into this place with Kodrum Kodi you got,

538
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,000
as you know now, this great layer up there that's real hot.

539
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:23,000
About, please, there be stress and stress and stress again,

540
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:29,000
that I do not say that all you pose could be or must be,

541
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,000
or maybe or must be, explained by this theory,

542
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
put forward by this knowledge fellow originally.

543
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000
On the other hand, I'm going to give you some, I hope, real shockers,

544
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
and then this particular theory.

545
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,000
I can't have enough time and facilities to put over the theory

546
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000
without visual aids and an awful lot of discussion and explaining myself.

547
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
I'm not sure all of you are getting at my throat and saying,

548
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000
what about this and what about that?

549
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,000
I'm only trying to give you the conjecture which goes behind this theory.

550
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000
And I believe that me, it is quite a theory, but quite a lot to it.

551
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000
There are certain aspects of it which have made me more deeply interested in this.

552
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,000
I know, not more deep is in this aspect of you pose than any other,

553
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
but have made me work more on it because I am a trained biologist

554
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000
and my whole life is with animals with life forms of one kind and another.

555
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,000
I would just like to point out the number of different ways in which

556
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:29,000
you pose as described by the prolonged suffering, bleeding, public,

557
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,000
who can see these things throughout the ages and their contents.

558
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Take a mass, dear fellow, because the number of things that some of your

559
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,000
you pose, your report is doing are the natural heaviness of life forms,

560
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
particularly of animals, as a matter of fact.

561
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
I live with animals right now.

562
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Don't think that animals, whether any animals in the universe have intelligence.

563
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
If you ever watch a cat talking a mouse or a bird,

564
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000
but if the birds are mouthing the cat, are certainly using intelligence.

565
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,000
But very advanced forms, the cat is thinking out his next move.

566
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000
It's not all instinctive.

567
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000
And if anybody can tell me the difference between instinct and reason,

568
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
they better get on the air right sharp and prove it.

569
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Now, take some of the things that these creatures do.

570
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
I'll come even to this button-stop in turn.

571
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Any animal with life forms which could travel at 15,000 miles an hour.

572
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Some of these things have been alleged to do just that.

573
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
90,000 people say this is absolutely ridiculous.

574
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,000
By extrapolation of what animals can do in a liquid medium for burrowing under the earth,

575
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000
start with moans, things like that.

576
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
So do they get along?

577
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000
No, moans go around.

578
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
It's a matter of fact that anyhow things burrowing around under the earth take a long time.

579
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000
They just shovel their way through.

580
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
They have to use a lot of muscular energy.

581
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Animals and water can travel faster and more freely.

582
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Animals and air can travel faster still.

583
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,000
If you get up and food, you can try to be nowhere, they could travel to Norman's Street.

584
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000
And that wonderful point that Sylvia brought up is that we had to think about it really deeply.

585
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Is it not possible that the closer they get to the source of their energy, the faster they may be able to go?

586
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Of course, I've got some nasty ones coming in a minute when we come to another aspect of ufology.

587
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:19,000
That is the whole question of teleportation and the possibility of transgressing the speed of life, which is unsanitary.

588
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Just before he dies, he's only a theoretical point.

589
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,000
Just the same as speed of sound is a relative point.

590
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:33,000
I remember when I was a kid, I was told no airplane would ever surpass the sound barrier

591
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
because air became virtually spotless at that point.

592
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,000
And it'd be like describing an airplane into a brick wall.

593
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Of course, all the silly people who were telling me it all forgot about the bullet wounding thing

594
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
which was very long time.

595
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
It's been very well-adapted in fact.

596
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
And that's just business of running into a brick wall, incidentally.

597
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
We'll bring it back to when I'm talking about youth loads.

598
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:59,000
You know the ordinary cockchaper or dune bus, the big people which comes bubbling along.

599
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
It is made of a tough curve.

600
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
It's a natural plastic. It's exoskeleton.

601
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000
It's a hard shell.

602
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
But it is a very nice entity.

603
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000
It's a something of a millimeter in thickness, certainly.

604
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,000
And yet, one of those people can drive straight into a brick wall

605
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:25,000
and after 50 miles an hour, bang into the wall, fall down on the ground, get up and walk away.

606
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000
I'd like to see some of our leaders travel in the speed of 70 miles an hour.

607
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
There is a lady who just said, OK.

608
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Oh, there's an intake of travel in the knowledge business.

609
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
There's a certain speed to fly.

610
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,000
You know when you're going into a pine wood and you see this thing looks like a yellow jacket

611
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000
and it's hovering in the air and suddenly it's somewhere else.

612
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
It's sort of egg-bead and helicopter thing.

613
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,000
It was a legend by one scientist, of course he was immediately blocked on the head

614
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000
having said, but I believe that he wasn't too far off from the work of other people.

615
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
But the legend has been able to travel 800 miles an hour.

616
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Well that's before anybody broke the sound barrier and there was an uproar.

617
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
It's virtually over the top of a Mexican mountain.

618
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
I don't know. I bring it up more as a joke then.

619
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,000
He did say it and it sounded like Prince and he got the warmth that was at the end of him at the time.

620
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000
But they had found that animals do travel flying.

621
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Animals dig the insects and follow the artifacts that they can go along.

622
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
And the beetle is a specific part of the mission itself.

623
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
But I'm thinking the other aspects of it,

624
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
flying into a brick wall would make it only 40 or 30.

625
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000
You try driving your car into a brick wall of 40 miles an hour.

626
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,000
I'd like to see some steel produced which has a 10,000 strength of the material

627
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,000
outside the shell of a beetle is made sitting half in it.

628
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
We've got a long way to go.

629
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Anyhow, back to these UFOs, those ones which might possibly be a life form.

630
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000
The enormous speed would not be much the intolerable.

631
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Anything that can go that enormous speed, obviously does not suffer from too many geese as it were in acceleration.

632
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000
But they can go so far, they can stop so far.

633
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,000
And it takes up so far that they can go off to another angle.

634
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
In other words, they don't make a right angle turn.

635
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
They come to a dead stop and go to another direction.

636
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
That is possible.

637
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
But I don't think that this type really do that very often.

638
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
I think that belongs in the prairie.

639
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Another category of UFOs.

640
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000
We deal principally with this kind.

641
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000
I'll get the disperser then.

642
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Just a few other points.

643
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:37,000
There are luminous animals in the sea, a fungus, bacteria, spade.

644
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Almost every form of life known has luminous members.

645
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
I found a luminous beetle in a cave in Trinidad.

646
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
I've actually got some others there.

647
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
But it's all along the side of it.

648
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Another plant is found light often.

649
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
But there are luminous spades.

650
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000
There is one bird, the young one, just a finger, a bird in a pheasant.

651
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,000
There are little birds hoping their mouths to be fed.

652
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Sometimes the inside of the mouth is luminous.

653
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Not because they are luminous, but because they have luminous bacteria

654
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
that have lodged in there.

655
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000
The theory is that the mother can find them more easily in the dark.

656
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
There are sponges which are luminous.

657
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
There are jellyfish that are squids.

658
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
Squids are particularly interesting.

659
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
They have a gar shape.

660
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
And they have like potlives all around the side.

661
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
And they are vivid.

662
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Some of the deeply squished have been brought up in the Indian Ocean.

663
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Four different colors grow the potlives around the side.

664
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
If you like us to look through some more,

665
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
you'll see some of those squids.

666
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,000
There's a fish called Poteleflaparov, which I caught when I was very young,

667
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,000
in the band of seas, often coasters in the looker.

668
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
And there were those coasters, the labies.

669
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
They let marbles, which were sort of really looking like fish,

670
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,000
rather sort of a polder, which looked a bit like a porgy.

671
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,000
And under the eyes, which of course, fishers, I don't have any eyelids,

672
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
it's sort of like another eye, really a pocket.

673
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
A sort of a kidney-shaped pocket underneath each eye,

674
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
with a movable lid, as it were.

675
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000
And in this pocket, in some extraordinary ways,

676
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:14,000
this fish manages invariably to gather an enormous amount of luminous bacteria,

677
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000
which just live in there like for the parasite.

678
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
They're happily there, glowing away all the time.

679
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000
And when the fish wants to see his food on the bottom,

680
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,000
he simply opens his little shutters and he gets two little headlights pointing down

681
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000
onto the ground, as the most amazing thing to see.

682
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
He has some in the pocket, and it was all dark,

683
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,000
but these two little headlights came on, so he could see the ground and splunk of him.

684
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Now, I come back to the luminous squids,

685
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
and we'll have these porgy lights next along the side.

686
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,000
You'll see others there, that wonderful frog, zero-fog,

687
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000
which has red lights for the stopping and green lights for going, presumably.

688
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
It really does have red and green lights on it.

689
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,000
It lives all the time inside a dark log in the Brazilian jungle.

690
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Now, a lot of these UFOs have been reported to have these brilliant porgy lights on the side,

691
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
some of which are circular, some of which are log-shaped,

692
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
some of which are square, and the pilot has described the lights being so dark

693
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,000
it can't look like a mysterious layer inside, the wicked cave.

694
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,000
So, the idea of light forms having self-luminosity or carrying their own light

695
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,000
is not anyway beyond the bound possibility, in fact, it's highly probable.

696
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Now, if these things give their food, their energy, and evolve to live in rare-sized atmosphere,

697
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
you may have just as many be right, outside the atmosphere.

698
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Actually, it is a set of space, there may be things drifting about,

699
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
up close, if they can speedy, smoothly, beyond energy,

700
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
and we know this map are all through space now, and the very tiny response,

701
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000
they might be able to pick up on us, matter, to make a sort of sphere,

702
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,000
or whatever other shape, cigar, or lamp, and it is interesting that many,

703
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,000
in fact, in many all cases, report that the outside of these animals

704
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000
look more like luminous.

705
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Most fish have a sort of slippery look, I can say, it's very true.

706
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:04,000
They might be things like the devil, which they came down to low and got drowned,

707
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000
in our atmosphere, they were drowned, probably in our atmosphere,

708
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,000
it's not technically where I'm putting it, if they come down too far.

709
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,000
On the other hand, another aspect of this fellow series is certainly delightful.

710
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
These things always seem to be in the sky, sometimes drift down,

711
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,000
maybe they get sick, they go down, like when whales get sick, they come up.

712
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:32,000
But they have been appearing, if you take a map, and map appears for you first,

713
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,000
as Dr. Davidson said last night, they're all turning up in radio beings.

714
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Also, they occur much more frequently over atomic energy plants, over large cities.

715
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Exactly, over all the places where we are broadcasting, telecasting,

716
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000
putting out masses and masses of electromagnetic energy,

717
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
which didn't in the old days used to be put out of these places.

718
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
These things get their food from above,

719
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
and they can be indicated by certain food from below.

720
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000
They being life forms come down to a bit of investigating,

721
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,000
maybe they can come down with this very strong radio beam,

722
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000
and they in the radio beam pick up a certain amount of electrical energy from there,

723
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000
but they need very little to be included in you.

724
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000
When they are partly out, when they affect our radar,

725
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,000
naturally they were their solid objects, they may not be very solid,

726
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
but they are, they're not hallucinations, they are things,

727
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
and of course they would affect our radar if they picked up a fish.

728
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Also, they observed the 30 days of the nation, the food fighters.

729
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Also, I was in a couple of intelligence services for 10 years, before and during the war.

730
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
I was in the Naval Intelligence for Carribean,

731
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:43,000
and I had deaf instructions from on high to please stop reporting green lights.

732
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,000
We thought that they were the enemy signaling to each other.

733
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,000
What happened was, really blew it up with this in the end,

734
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:54,000
one of these green glowing objects landed on a road in Kyrgyzstan,

735
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,000
when 500 British troops were marching from Willamineport,

736
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
up to take over the oil fields after the fall of Holland,

737
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,000
and landed in front of the officer on the road, one of these things.

738
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000
And I don't know if the officer being the British,

739
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000
who had charged forward men, but anyhow they chased this thing,

740
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000
and it played a tag with them.

741
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
It bounced along and disappeared into the gutter,

742
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
run along to the culvert's duct room, come out the other side,

743
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
and put a weight on them and run away in front of them,

744
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000
and it finally just went up the sky and disappeared.

745
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,000
And from then on the Admiralty decided that these things,

746
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
mostly green lights, were probably natural phenomena.

747
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Indeed they are.

748
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,000
Now the proof-liders, the activity of that thing,

749
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:41,000
the activity of the proof-liders, and much of the behavior of many UFOs,

750
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
is exactly that of an animal.

751
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,000
They are inquisitive, and when people say they seem to be intelligently controlled,

752
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000
they are, because all animals are intelligent,

753
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,000
in a matter of degree, even a bumbling of poplars.

754
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,000
And anything that can prove at high speed,

755
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000
it's probably got to have some kind of intelligence,

756
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000
of course, in bad words, maybe they've yet to find it.

757
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,000
But in other words, they are intelligently directed from within,

758
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000
do you get me?

759
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
And they come down and play tag with the aeroplects.

760
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Well, they are.

761
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
They smell of metal.

762
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
They're giving out energy all over,

763
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,000
it's bounced along and pick up a little food wherever on the way.

764
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000
These funny, great bumbling things have come up.

765
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,000
All the things that come up from the bottom of the sea were amazed.

766
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,000
It was a world-living thing called the Crackers.

767
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000
We've now known it as Arch-Inclusive Squids,

768
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
which can grow with its tentacles up to over 30 foot long.

769
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,000
For years and years, it was last had a sea monster.

770
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Now, everybody here at the museum has seen this album.

771
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
In fact, they use them as the bait to cog tissues out of the grand bank,

772
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,000
have done all the way through.

773
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
But one professor, Feral, could probably actually go out there and catch one.

774
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,000
But we are amazed at some of the things that come up from the bottom of the sea

775
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000
in the U.C.C. fish.

776
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
These things are probably just as amazed as giving them up.

777
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
They're at the remote accommodation,

778
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,000
but they're looking for food like everything else.

779
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,000
And they're not going to run into a plane.

780
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,000
They can move much faster than the plane.

781
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,000
They can play around.

782
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,000
It starts to wave in front of it.

783
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
A lot of these other things have come down low,

784
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
like that false couch monster who was reported to have got seriously burnt.

785
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,000
I wanted to use things in the fly that were once, you remember?

786
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Yes, I did.

787
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,000
He went and had it right.

788
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
When I take a life form, feeding on energy,

789
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,000
you must be able to store energy.

790
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Electric eel can store, oh my goodness,

791
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,000
what a lot of electricity is stored in storage batteries.

792
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,000
These things are little power houses of their own.

793
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Coming down here, buzzing around the floor,

794
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
maybe he got lost or passed,

795
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,000
or sunk to the bottom,

796
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000
or got in a wrong convection current or something.

797
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,000
And he's floating down there,

798
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
feeling probably slightly uncomfortable

799
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000
because it's tremendous air pressure around him,

800
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,000
which he's not used to.

801
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
I'm making these barge humans,

802
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
which is a man that explains animal intelligence

803
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
and behavior rather, behaviors are better words.

804
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
And that comes at human beings.

805
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000
And out of all innocence,

806
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
he goes up and gets too close or even touches it

807
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000
and whammer to get the terrific electric shock.

808
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,000
I'm using the word electricity to again over-simplify

809
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
because the different types of electromagnetic waves

810
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
are the rays that dissolve it.

811
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
And so there may be one kind of speed in this wave range,

812
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
another one here,

813
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
maybe thousands and hundreds,

814
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,000
millions of different kinds of these creatures.

815
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000
And their behavior, I say, is definitely that of a life form.

816
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,000
And I can go on indefinitely giving you such cases,

817
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,000
such correlations between reports of UFOs and animal behavior.

818
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
But now let me, I've done that,

819
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
let me cut that out and say,

820
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,000
I would not attempt to put any of the 10 kgs on those,

821
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
which I think might be life forms.

822
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,000
I try to be objective and particularly scientific,

823
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
I'm interested in other words,

824
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000
in the exploration, the investigation of the unknown

825
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
by the user's personal imagination,

826
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
seconded by hypotheses.

827
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
We need facts.

828
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,000
I don't know if anybody's got the UFO yet.

829
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,000
I very much doubted this animal type,

830
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,000
or this life form type could be gotten.

831
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Because apparently when they get down to our atmosphere,

832
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
they dissolve, they proceed to dissolve.

833
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
And sometimes when they clash amongst themselves,

834
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,000
it seems to be a discharge of some kind,

835
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000
and this angel pair comes down.

836
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
In other cases, the policeman in Philadelphia,

837
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
who saw it land on the pavement,

838
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000
and made a shout of it,

839
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
he went out and picked it up.

840
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000
I can bring you four or five witnesses from up in our Warren County

841
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000
who saw the similar thing,

842
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
and they went and picked this stuff up for three.

843
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
And you know, they all stated that it's migrating spiders,

844
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
and they put out a web, and they go blowing on a witness,

845
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
and the spiders' web, and you can tell spiders would put on the mic,

846
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
and the string would drop the boil on it.

847
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000
This stuff, they picked it up,

848
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,000
and as they put it on their hands, it becomes jelly.

849
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
And then it doesn't seem to dissolve right in the fight tube.

850
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Other people, I believe, the Donald King Ho has

851
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,000
some locked up in a bottle or had some at one time.

852
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,000
When it was let out, it had no structure that we could find.

853
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000
I don't know if we've had that analyzed.

854
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
I think, truthfully, people have tried to do it,

855
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
but then every time you get into a lab, it just dissolves in the fight tube.

856
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,000
It goes away. In other words, it dissolves in our atmosphere.

857
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
This is that case, which is very interesting,

858
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
because we just discovered that those things there,

859
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
which look much more like machines, I must admit,

860
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
come over the mountains, hit an updraft,

861
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
there'd be big, flourish spars,

862
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
and that's a chemical all those color is.

863
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
And the atmosphere at the crest of the mountains,

864
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,000
where they came up with highly charged carbonations matter,

865
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
and they seem to be unable to cope with carbonations matter

866
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,000
in the case of formal particles that may have plugged

867
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
their breathing vents,

868
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,000
three-day machines, or edible life forms.

869
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
And they all went out of gear at the same time.

870
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
One managed to land. Two got away because they were on an outside edge.

871
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Don't forget it was number one and number six,

872
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,000
so we did serve to keep on going.

873
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,000
And over two crashed and one flew out in the air, all of you.

874
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000
So it came apart in the air, came unstuck.

875
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
And the ashes that set out in the deep within the door

876
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,000
was nothing else but the beginning of Angel's hair.

877
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Or, as Charles Ford says,

878
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000
there are being rains of substance which would evacuate blood.

879
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
There have been rains of ashes.

880
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,000
There have been rains which would share a certain carbonation content.

881
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
First you had one of these things a mile and a half long.

882
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,000
It might be so genius that you could, without the energy,

883
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,000
you thought you could drive a plane through.

884
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,000
And you'd only come up with sticky metal, all of you.

885
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
But the stillness of the enormous amount of material in there,

886
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
and the very tenuous form, first it dies.

887
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
First it dies, sometimes, and it's run out of energy,

888
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000
or something goes wrong with their mechanism.

889
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,000
When I'm speaking of biology, biological mechanism,

890
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
when it runs out they die, and what are you left with?

891
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
That amount of carbon, silicon and so on.

892
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,000
And the end product, as it falls very rapidly

893
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,000
through the increasingly dense atmosphere,

894
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,000
will burn up just like an meteor.

895
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
And all you get is ashes,

896
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,000
and your range of carbonaceous matter,

897
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
your range of blood may be of a similar nature,

898
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
may be the heavy part, you may have a certain amount of liquidism,

899
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,000
and so on and so forth, in your realm.

900
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Let us appear theoretical purposes.

901
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Let us say that 80% of UFO reports are dealing with life forms,

902
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,000
or they are, they are, get them out of the way.

903
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,000
There is never, we come to another whole group,

904
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
there are possibilities in another whole group,

905
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000
there's no reason whatsoever,

906
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,000
why there should not be other intelligence,

907
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,000
other forms of life in the universe,

908
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
of the level of our intelligence, or above it.

909
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:30,000
And nobody can deny the possibilities that intelligence

910
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,000
of our level, or higher, right up to the almost godlike,

911
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
need not be contained in a body such as we have,

912
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
made of hydrogen and carbon, specifically,

913
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
which is highly suitable to our planet,

914
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,000
but on other planets, not necessarily going around our sun,

915
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,000
going around other planets.

916
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,000
And in the, how many suns are there in our galaxy

917
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,000
of our suns? I think it's 400 million,

918
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000
or something like that, 400,000 million,

919
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,000
something like that, in our galaxy alone,

920
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
and according to the theories of Coikler of Chicago

921
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,000
and Weisegel of Germany, planets are a natural

922
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000
concomitant of the formation of a sun,

923
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
when the sun starts at the whirling legatelle or this,

924
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,000
as it contracts, an heavy matter flies out,

925
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,000
and I can set it to use in the light matter,

926
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,000
goes to the middle of the sun, automatically,

927
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000
by a very complicated thing of world,

928
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000
and we have to gather up all the heavy matter and make the planets,

929
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,000
and there will always be a set of planets going around every sun,

930
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
well, every sun of the same size as ours,

931
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
probably got a set of the same number of planets,

932
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,000
about the same average as ours, according to both the law anyhow.

933
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,000
I don't know that in the respect to the truth,

934
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,000
as an astronomer.

935
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,000
And the third planet ours will probably be very equivalent to Earth.

936
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,000
There is nothing in nature known to biologists as parallel evolution, you know.

937
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000
One animal living on one continent,

938
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
can over a bit of years,

939
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
due to the same things that it has to do,

940
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,000
develop it to look more exactly like a completely different animal on another continent.

941
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
They're not related in any way, genetically,

942
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000
but they come to look almost identical.

943
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000
That's called parallel evolution,

944
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,000
there's no reason why even human light-looking mammals

945
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,000
couldn't be developed on a planet going around another sun

946
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
at the same size as ours,

947
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,000
the sun being made of the same material as we know

948
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,000
through respect to the topic analysis and so on.

949
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,000
Therefore, there's no reason why there should not be

950
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,000
light forms with intelligences about the virus,

951
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,000
in other words, who can build machines, who would want to build machines,

952
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,000
and who might go flying in them.

953
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,000
We cannot discredit the possibility that there could be, in other words, man,

954
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,000
and I've used man in his quotes,

955
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,000
man's UFOs, which are machines, structures,

956
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
guided by the intelligence either writing in that machine

957
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,000
or controlling it robotically from a distance from a mothership.

958
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,000
There is no reason why that category could also not be included.

959
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:49,000
This has been a presentation of the K-3 quarter UFO information service

960
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000
and nonprofit organization, Dr. H. E. Dittmar,

961
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,000
general coordinator, H. M. Hendrickson, technical director.